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While there are two threads with multiple suggestions specific to 'fixing 8x8' and many threads on specific suggestions such as the pvp early leaving penalty this thread is a brief survey on the 8x8 results. Granted this is not an unbiased survey as I have been in all the matches. the survey consisted on 40 pvp 8x8 matches over multiple servers which is a very narrow survey in the context of total matches played on these servers. While I would like to see the stats on all games played in a month over each server is is just a narrow look based on kill ratios. Noting that a kill can be assigned to more than one person as can be seen in kills from healers in particular. One takeaway as can be seen from the results is it not a good idea to post these kill results. This leads to teams trying to run up kill scores. One game where hacking was suspected was excluded from the survey. My perception is hacking has been significantly reduced over the years and is continually being seriously investigated in the more rare times it is suspected. kill ratio winner to loser 1-5+ 1-4 1-3 1-2 1-1 2-1 3-1 4-1 5+-1 2 0 2 6 4 7 4 4 11 5% 0% 5% 15% 10% 17.5% 10% 10% 27.5% The 1-9 and 1-16 scores were the losing team basically ignoring objectives and are thus tactical wipeouts. The 1-3 and 1-2 indicate a 20% chance of pulling an underdog victory. While a 4+-1 shows no chance of winning if the other side is seriously wiping you out but cares about objectives which accounts for 37.5 % of the battles. How much a wipeout can be seen in the ratios of 5+-1. These were 454-0, 154-0, 38-1, 22-1, 21-1, 18-1, 15-1, 8-1, 7-1, 7-1, and 6-1. That is wipeouts occur 42.5% of the time as you need to include the 1-9 and 1-16 fights. Close games are then 57.5% with a 27.5% to 20% of the overkilling side winning. A close game for example a 2-1 kill ratio did lead to a 6 to 0 score huttball objective blow out. The two 1- 1 Huttball game scores were 4-0 and 5-2 objective scores. The perception to players these games are close may vary. The bottom line is you better be prepared for being wipeout in 8x8. I think the consensus is the wipeouts are particularly due to premades however this study did not and could not easily identify premades vs. non-premades. I hope data on pvp is being closely gathered and that actions such as those in the fixing 8x8 threads and other threads will be examined to better balance the teams. Players tend to remember the wipeouts and the games pulled from the clutches of defeat or barely staving off defeat. The close games are what we want the game designed to promote occurring more often. -
By LanceDefender · Posted
But you know dude no matter how long they will be delaing the patch, it will have more bugs than there are active swtor players. This is the swtor way. And yes, people care about new content to have something to do AND as name suggest SPRING event should be during SPRING not SUMMER. lol I love people who will defend devs and will always find an excuse for such thing. Why not release 7.5 on December? We can wait, no? -
I don't see a downside to no penalty if the war zone is bad and everyone just leaving and letting the war zone abort to start a new war zone that could possibly be more balanced. Yes if players don't know when a lot of players leave rapidly out of a war zone the war zone will abort. It's actually a workaround for a bad war zone. The war zone abort function is there for a reason. The reason is if the war zone is bad enough everyone can leave. It's actually a good function. It's intended to reshuffle the matchmaking and make the matches better. I said in another post. Not being able to leave when the experience of the war zone is bordering on traumatic and emotionally draining is abusive! It's like being locked in a prison or some insane asylum and you can't get out. Let people out of the prison, developers. These war zones that are just absolutely atrocious totally disgust me. I just log off. -
I'd much rather BS takes their time and delivers an event that isn't full of bugs, with rewards that also aren't full of bugs. Who cares if it's technically in the spring or summer of this year? Let it come out when it's actually ready, not just when it can functionally make it in the game without breaking too much. The SWTOR team is reportedly about half the size it used to be - all the more reason not to pressure them on timelines on new playable content. -
I'd much rather BS takes their time and delivers an event that isn't full of bugs, with rewards that also aren't full of bugs. Who cares if it's technically in the spring or summer of this year? Let it come out when it's actually ready, not just when it can functionally make it in the game without breaking too much. The SWTOR team is reportedly about half the size it used to be - all the more reason not to pressure them on timelines on new playable content.
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